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HTML in Third Generation Editor

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Jared_M
Employee

Hello everyone,

 

Currently, in our Third Generation Editor we do not allow access to edit the HTML and have no immediate plans to do so. We want to provide our customers with the abilities to be able to use a user-friendly interface instead of having to rely on a code view to get their desired results. With all the feedback we have been collecting we are planning on making improvements to padding and adding some line spacing elements in the UI. I know this doesn’t solve all use cases, such as adding tables, but we will continue to make strides towards improving the editor.

 

I understand allowing HTML would increase the ability for more control of your content but it can also have a negative impact on your newsletter’s display in email clients.  If we provide access to HTML for every block, changing some of the default styles or content could break display when sent to an email client. Also being able to manually adjust width could have a negative effect. We have a team of amazing engineers constantly testing our templates in all email clients, so you can be certain your email displays consistently across the board. With that in mind, we want to make sure we make it easy to provide the best look and feel not only on the desktop but on mobile. With a majority of opens now leaning towards mobile over desktop we take that as a priority.

 

Please continue to let us know your thoughts on HTML and what exactly you're trying to do so even if we don't have HTML access we will be able to give you the tools to get your desired outcome.

 

Thanks,


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Occasional Participant

Re: HTML in Third Generation Editor

Thanks for finally being straight with us. That said, here is one (of many) issue I have with the lack of access to HTML:

 

In our emails, we frequently copy the style, layout, and content of one block in a previously sent email into a new email. I achieve this in the old editor by simply making a copy of the old email campaign, opening the HTML view on the block I wish to replicate, selecting all, copying to the clipboard, and then closing that copied campaign (without saving so that it's deleted because now I'm done with the copy), then going into my new email campaign I'm creating and pasting the HTML code into a new content block. I actually have several Notes files where I just keep the HTML code for my most frequently used types of content blocks, so I can just grab the code, paste it in, and then change the text or images as needed in the editor.

It isn't a solution to simply copy the whole campaign, because I may be combining content blocks from several previous emails, and/or copying a content block from a campaign we sent a year ago and, in the time since, many other elements of our campaign look and feel have changed. I'll give you a scenario:

Let's say, every summer we hold an annual event. How about an ice cream social that's in late July. In early May, I send a campaign containing a block with a save-the-date for the ice cream social. Then I don't mention the ice cream social for the next several campaigns. Mid-June, I send a campaign mentioning the ice cream social again now that tickets are on sale, so I just copy the block HTML from my early May email and add the new ticket info. Then I mention it in every campaign up until the event. Then summer turns to fall, fall turns to winter, and then at the beginning of the new year we freshen up our branding with a tweaked email campaign layout, some changes to our header and footer, etc. Time continues to pass and here we are again in May, planning our annual ice cream social. To save time, I want to just reuse last year's ice cream social marketing (same image, description, etc.). So I find the previous May email (now a year old) in my past campaigns, copy the HTML from the ice cream social block, and paste it into my new email, change the date, and VOILA! – now my campaign has our current branding with the new header and footer, the other current news, and the ice cream social info.

I don't see how to do this without accessing the HTML, but here's a potential solution: Let us save content blocks to a library, the way we can save images, so that as we are building campaigns, we can simply insert content blocks from other campaigns into our new campaign without having to build them from scratch anytime we aren't copying an entire campaign.

In other words, if you can find a way to let us copy various elements from multiple different campaigns into one new campaign, that would make me a lot less hesitant to switch to the 3rd generation editor. I want to be able to copy a block from Campaign A and a block from Campaign B and put both into Campaign C.

I'd be happy to give other examples or further clarify if you have any questions about how I use HTML. I really hope you find a way to incorporate this functionality if you don't plan to let us access HTML in the future. 

Thanks for listening and considering this request.

- Emily

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Employee

Re: HTML in Third Generation Editor

Hello @EmilyD85

 

It's great to see you in the Community! Thank you providing such thorough feedback on the Third-Generation Editor. It is feedback from customers such as your self that helps guide our decisions for adding features in. Also, thank you for providing so many examples of how having HTML code in the editor would be useful for you and other customers.

 

I also love your idea about being able to save content blocks to the library. I could see this being a potentially great idea. 

 

I am happy to track all of the feedback you provided and send it to the appropriate teams. Please continue to provide us with any feedback you thing will help us improve our products and services.

 

Have a wonderful rest of your day!


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Occasional Participant

Re: HTML in Third Generation Editor

You've presented one of my problems well! We have a weekly e-newsletter and many events that are annual or monthly. Would like to be able to copy a block, including image, without re-formatting and then searching for the image again.
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Re: HTML in Third Generation Editor

I am in a similar situation to Emily. Once a week I send out an email listing about 10-30 new books that have published that week. I use the HTML editor in Second Generation Editor to paste all the content into the block in one go. From start to finish I can get this newsletter done in about 20 minutes. Using the 3rd Generation Editor it would take me, literally, hours - week after week.

 

I understand that entering poorly formating HTML could have detrimental effects on responsive design etc but please treat us as adults and give us a warning message and then let us make our own choice!

If you won't give us the ability to access the HTML. Please, at least give the ability to paste with formatting as is possible in Second Generation. The Second Generation Editor is getting increasingly buggy and hangs frequently. I suspect it is because it is no longer being supported and will thus get worse and worse over time. I would move to Third Generation if I had the ability to paste with formatting and/or access HTML within a specific block.

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Trusted Contributor

Re: HTML in Third Generation Editor

I'm afraid I can't be as polite as Emily was in her reply to this comment. At least someone is finally admitting what most of us writing in this topic have realized for some time which is that CC has NO plans to restore the ability to view and edit html in the content blocks. Emily's idea of a content block library is a great one, and I totally endorse it and would find it extremely useful. But it would not be the start and end of what I would like to use html for. I have written those thoughts many times in this thread, so I hope they have been monitored by whoever is actually doing the work of "further refining" I don't feel like I should have to reiterate them again in response to this latest post. I do want to add, however, that I find the idea that by doing this you are improving the mobile version of emails since I have experienced a number of things you are doing that are extremely problematic for us in the mobile version, including that you have decided that every image should run edge to edge in the mobile version, even though it is not that way in the desktop version.. We should at least be able to set a maximum width for the image when displayed in mobile! Because of things like this, I find it laughable that CC thinks it is giving its customers the "best look" for their subscribers who view the mobile version.
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Editing HTML in third generation editor

In the older editor, you had the ability to edit the HTML of any block of content. I found this quite helpful in a number of ways and was wondering if and when we might get that functionality in the third generation editor. 

 

I used to use this to make a content block that resembled an abbreviated version of the navigation bar on our website, but have found it impossible to replicate in the third generation editor as the responsiveness of the new template breaks each menu item onto its own row in anything smaller than full desktop screen sizes. A problem I never had with the old editor since I could edit the HTML by hand. 

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Employee

Re: Editing HTML in third generation editor

Hello @AndrewS00218,

 

Thank you for reaching out to the Community! I apologize for the inconvenience but we are not implementing HTML into the Third Generation editing system yet. The editor is designed to be mobile responsive so those layouts will create a stacked effect, making it easier for your contacts to read and go to your desired page. I would be more than happy to track this feedback on your account for our engineers to review. Again, I apologize for any inconvenience this has caused. 


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Editing HTML in third generation editor

I still use copies of old campaigns as my template and doing that gives me the Advanced Editor so I can edit any and all html in my campaigns. It's really a serious problem though that this is not available with the new editor! If CC ever blocks all html editing, I will have to use a different service, despite 20 years of being with CC! Writing my own html is the single-most important factor for me in our email campaigns. Please tell your engineers they need to put the Advanced Editor into the new editor! 

 

Alternately, if you want to write your own html, you can always write it as a webpage (which I do with each newsletter), then send out a tiny email with a link to the newsletter webpage. It's not ideal, of course, but for a truly complex newsletter, we need total command of the css, javascript, and html! I'm shocked that the Advanced Editor has been removed from the Third Gen Editor! How hard can it be to open and save a plain text doc with the code on it from within the editor?

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Re: Editing HTML in third generation editor

Hello @hvhibiscus,

 

I do apologize that this has not been implemented in our product yet and we completely understand why you would find this feature useful. Your feedback has been tracked on your account and our engineers will contact you with any updates! Thank you and have a great rest of you day. 


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Re: Editing HTML in third generation editor

I agree 100% with what hvhibiscus wrote here.  Editing the HTML code in an email content block is a required feature for me.  So is the ability to include a subject line and body text when creating a hyperlink to an email address.  I have been with Constant Contact for over a decade.  If I'm stuck with this third generation editor as it exists today, I'm moving on.

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