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Segments improvement

Segments improvement

We should be able to have more than one criteria of each type to create a segment (i.e. I should be able to create a segment that targets people who meet BOTH of these criteria: were sent any of the last 5 campaigns AND Opened one of the last 10 campaigns.
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CTCT Employee
Status changed to: New

Hey @CarlyleM9, thanks for your feedback! Being able to add an additional criteria would be very useful. I've opened this request for voting! 

 

Thanks!

CTCT Employee
Status changed to: Voting Open
 
Occasional Contributor
Hello, I would be incredibly useful, and easy for you to implement, adding an AND and ISNOT (!=) operators to the segment constructor. Right now you only have an OR operator. I can do a lot with segments if you add these. As it stands, not very helpful. Also add more Actions to segment creation. I'd like unsubscribed as an action as example.
CTCT Employee
Status changed to: Voting Open

Hey @DavidK9631, thanks for your feedback! I definitely understand the importance of having the ability to add this logic to our Segments feature and have passed this feedback along to our developers as well as opened this idea for voting. 

 

Thanks!

Visitor
I am trying to make a segment based on these criteria: 1. Member of a specific list AND 2. Contact has a custom field = Y AND 3. Contact has a second custom field = DD OR 4. Contact as a second custom field = DR I am unable to specify set up this segment because I can't have two "contact details" sections separated by an AND. To describe the query I need in general terms... Give me a list of contacts from LIST1 where the contacts have a CUSTOM FIELD 1 or "Y" AND (the contacts have a CUSTOM FIELD 2 of "DD" OR "DR)
Visitor

This part has a typo.  Should read:

 

... Give me a list of contacts from LIST1 where the contacts have a CUSTOM FIELD 1 of "Y" AND (the contacts have a CUSTOM FIELD 2 of "DD" OR "DR)

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It would be great if segments could be created using multiples of the same type of criteria, and to exclude contacts on a specific list. For example, contacts who opened email A, but didn't click on any links in email A, and are not on email list Z. I have follow-ups that I'm sending to a list, but don't want to email them if they've already completed the event signup process. Some people who have already signed up didn't sign up by clicking through the email.
CTCT Employee
Status changed to: New

Hey @KirkW13, thanks so much for sharing your feedback! We're actually working on some of these features already and once they're available, I'll be sure to update this thread. We will have the ability to exclude those not on a list as well as add multiple criteria for each category. We're still looking into segmenting people in a list and not in another, so I've opened this idea for voting. 

CTCT Employee
Status changed to: Voting Open
 
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I am trying to create a list of "inactive" contacts which I am defining as those that have been consistently receiving our emails for a length of time (two years) AND have never opened any. I want to begin the process of updating or removing these inactive emails from our email list. Having more options in segmentation would vastly improve this.

My current idea to accomplish this is to (Step 1) create 24 segments by contact activity, each segment with the criteria of "were sent" for a one-month timeframe, such as "were sent 1/1/2017-1/31/2017."  (I can't simply do one segment with a two-year timeframe because I want to ensure the contacts have been getting emails the whole time, not just once or a few or even half of that two-year timeframe. We send emails to our entire list at least once a month.). Next (Step 2) I take the 24 segments, export them, and combine them into one Excel spreadsheet, then remove all the records that don't appear in every segment. Now I have a list of contacts that were sent email in every single month for two years. (Step 3) I create one more segment by activity, for "opened" during that total two-year time frame. I export and add that to my Excel sheet and remove duplicates so that the only remaining contacts are those which received email campaigns in every month for two years but never opened any.

This feels like a ridiculous amount of work to get a list that meets this criteria: Was sent email in every month from Jan. 2017 through Jan. 2019 AND never opened. Is there a better way to do this?? Adding multiple criteria for each category seems to be the answer, but until that feature is available (IF it become available), what do I do?

 

Thanks!

Occasional Visitor
Anniversary Month is not a segment criteria option.Can it become one?
Regular Visitor
I like this idea but need to be able to click more options for criteria. It is very limited. Anything that we are using we should be able to segment from. I wanted to do a mass look and put all the contacts that didnt have an email address filled out in a segment so I could mass export them to have someone contact them if there is a phone number which was another option that wasnt available
Member
Please allow the option to have an or and not just an "and" with the list critera. Right now if I want to add a list to my criteria, it will only do an "and" and I would like to do an "or" so I can just add the people in the list.
CTCT Employee
Status changed to: Open Questions

Hello @DoreenR9,

Thanks for reaching out with this idea! Currently with segments you can do list A or List B ( are you just looking for the opposite and?) Would you be able to tell us what the segment that you were trying to create was and what you wanted to use it for? 2019-08-16_16-50-39.jpg

Member

Thanks for your response.  I would like there to be the option to do an "and" or an "or" when adding a list.  Since we can't select multiple segments, I was trying to add a list to the segment to include the individuals in that list.  Once I selected the list, it automatically puts an "and" completely is the opposite of what I want.Screenshot for CC Segment Suggestion.png

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What I am trying to accomplish is to add all the contacts in a list to the segment criteria, but that isn't possible as it is doing an "and" which makes the names in the list to be included with the other criteria.  Hope that makes sense.

 

Member

Hi 

 

we notice that there is a major difference in the behaviour between our readers using desktop and mobile devices to read the email. Thus, we like to segment by the criteria of device used. can you help to advise how we can do so?

Administrator
Status changed to: New

Hi @user7149. While this option isn't currently available in our Segments feature, I'll track this feedback for you. 

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This is awful. I cannot segment based on emails older than a certain range. I cannot segment a list based on belonging to another list. I'm better to segment in excel and upload new lists for every purpose.
Administrator
Status changed to: New

Hello @LauraC0046. Thank you so much for the feedback about our Segment feature. How far back were you looking to pull data from when adding a criteria section under Contact Activity? What criteria were you using?

 

Also, for segmenting "a list based on belonging to another list", could you explain this more? Were you looking for an AND option so you could filter contacts who belong to two lists or maybe filter those who belong to one list but not another? Any examples you could provide here would be very helpful so I can send it over to the correct team.

Administrator
Status changed to: Open Questions
 
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1. We wanted to create a segment to omit those that received the last monthly email, so timeframe of 1 month. We want to apply 2 criteria: "those on a list" AND "didn't receive the last month's email". However we can't select that last monthly email if we sent out too many communications in the last month.

 

Separate to that issue

2. When trying to segment by 'custom fields' it omits numerous custom fields. So if we asked someone for their interests, and try to segment by that specific interest, we only have a handful of fields (~20/40) to choose from. Doesn't seem to be any reason why some are included and others are not.

 

3. Short of #2. working, we have segmented the main list via Excel and our CRM to generate a new list to upload. We don't want those receiving the personalized email to also receive the general email, so we tried to omit them by filtering the 'Main' list by the 'New' list we generated.

 

Hopefully this gives a little more clarity.

 

 

 

 

 

Occasional Visitor
Any chance you can develop a folder system in the segment portion. It would be so helpful to be able to have a folder for "Birthdays" and a folder for "Nations"....just thought it might help others as well.
Administrator

Hi @LauraC0046. I apologize for the delay in my reply. 

 

#1 - For Contact Activity in segments, there is a limit of 25 emails that will show in the dropdown when selecting a specific email. I've noted your feedback and sent it to our product team as I can see this being an issue if users send frequently. 

 

#2 - I brought up your account and saw 50 custom fields displaying, not the 20 or 40 you mentioned which might be a browser issue such as screen size or zoom setting. Additionally, the custom field dropdown in segments is limited to 50 custom fields. Since you have more than 50, not all of them will display and the segmenting will need to be manually done outside of Constant Contact as you noted in #3. Expanding the limit of custom fields is a request that we have heard as well.

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What would be more helpful than the date added (in our case in particular) would be the date clicked AND invitation/list clicked. It would be great to select criteria/tailor to needs.
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Why can we not send an email to a segment that has responded "Yes" to an RSVP?  I was astounded that this is not available.  

Administrator
Status changed to: New

Hi @SherylB2. This is a great idea. Although results from an action block can't be used as criteria in segments, you can add these respondents to a list and email them this way.  

In the Email List section, please add "+AND" as an option in addition to the "+OR" option. It would be MUCH easier to do this instead of trying to coordinate tags or making another 50 lists.
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I would like to create a list that is 

List A BUT NOT List B

My List A is General Interest (all contacts) and List B is one I created that is Members. I would really like to have a Not Members list (to encourage membership).